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  #16  
Old 2024-09-24, 12:53 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

So what I am seeing right now is that no one wants to run this site. That is Fine! But, it means we will be closing in less than a month.
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Old 2024-09-24, 05:17 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

I would only change the above to say, "No one that knows how wants to run this site." I am sure there are plenty of us that would do it if we understood how to
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Old 2024-09-24, 07:18 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

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So what I am seeing right now is that no one wants to run this site.
I wonder if the reality of the site closing down hasn't set in with folks. Maybe taking the forum, the tracker, or both, offline for a day or two would wake the people up.

This is going to sound lame, but I personally want to participate in running the site (in some capacity), but I cannot see how I could. Time and ability are hard things to find.

Is it possible for a board or committee to admin the site? Is the thought of "one to run the site" just too overwhelming for anyone to volunteer?

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That is Fine! But, it means we will be closing in less than a month.
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You have had the skill and patience to build and run this site for 20 years. Finding Bradley (I hope he is doing ok: "Last Activity: 2024-09-02 10:13 PM") seemed against the odds, but I am glad it happened. Is it possible to catch lightning in a bottle a third time? I hope so.
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Old 2024-09-24, 09:36 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

This is the question that it seems more than a few of us are curious about...

What would someone need to attend to on a daily / weekly / monthly / annual basis?

For example, on a daily basis, how many hours need to be dedicated to keeping an eye on things?

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Lynne,

Glad to hear there's someone to perhaps run the software. That's a good first step.

To facilitate the quest to find (hopefully) a new site admin, I wonder if you could elaborate a bit, even if in general terms, about what exactly that entails as it might help people decide whether they have the bandwidth to do so.
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Old 2024-09-24, 10:34 AM
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This is the question that it seems more than a few of us are curious about...

What would someone need to attend to on a daily / weekly / monthly / annual basis?

For example, on a daily basis, how many hours need to be dedicated to keeping an eye on things?
I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a big enough chunk of time that it wouldn't appeal to a lot of people.
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Old 2024-09-24, 10:55 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

No, I think we all get it - but the question of what exactly it would entail has not been answered. Without that information, it would be hard to just step up and offer to take over, me thinks.



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I wonder if the reality of the site closing down hasn't set in with folks. Maybe taking the forum, the tracker, or both, offline for a day or two would wake the people up.

This is going to sound lame, but I personally want to participate in running the site (in some capacity), but I cannot see how I could. Time and ability are hard things to find.

Is it possible for a board or committee to admin the site? Is the thought of "one to run the site" just too overwhelming for anyone to volunteer?



You are truly an amazing person. <--- a sincere and genuine use of the smiley
You have had the skill and patience to build and run this site for 20 years. Finding Bradley (I hope he is doing ok: "Last Activity: 2024-09-02 10:13 PM") seemed against the odds, but I am glad it happened. Is it possible to catch lightning in a bottle a third time? I hope so.
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Old 2024-09-24, 11:27 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

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So what I am seeing right now is that no one wants to run this site. That is Fine! But, it means we will be closing in less than a month.
If you would like to see the site continue to exist, here's my suggestion. Tell people what they will need to do to run the site. People are asking. How much money will need to be invested. How much time does it take. Provide as much detail as you can. Only then can people make an educated decision on whether or not they can step up.
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Old 2024-09-24, 12:03 PM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

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One of the main things that needs to be figured out is exactly where to go from here. Bradley actually has a thread where he outlines some of his ideas - TTD reimagined research and ideas. I am not the right person for this since I have not kept up with software or programming since leaving vBulletin several years ago, nor have I kept up on what other music sites are doing these days.

TTD is making due right now, limping along, but it really isn't sustainable. We are running on old PHP/MySQL software and old vBulletin software. I do have newer vBulletin files to upgrade the site to use newer PHP/MySQL, but someone with PHP knowledge will need to actually go through and compare the old files to the new files, upgrade the files, and then also upgrade the PHP modifications and the tracker for the site. Someone will also have to upgrade the PHP/MySQL for the site. This is NOT an easy job to do which is why I am not wanting to do it again (I've already done it about six times for this site so far). It's not easy, as I said, but it obviously is doable since it has been done several times already.
Isn't this the main issue and thing that a new admin would need to address, along with anyone who has ideas or a strategy on how to transition the current site out of 2000's technology and into an easier to run site using modern technology?
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Old 2024-09-24, 01:53 PM
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So what I am seeing right now is that no one wants to run this site. That is Fine! But, it means we will be closing in less than a month.
Hi Lynne

My understanding from re-reading previous posts is that you have a possible offer of IT support from someone with the necessary skills to take care of that end.

I can possibly help with the admin/running of the site, but like previous posters I need more information as to what that might entail.

I have admin experience, having run several businesses over the years. I am semi-retired nowadays.
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Old 2024-09-24, 02:21 PM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

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So what I am seeing right now is that no one wants to run this site. That is Fine! But, it means we will be closing in less than a month.
I thought, I said I could and would run the site... I guess I need to make it clearer, PM to talk about what all needs to be done to "run" the site, lets discuss the needs to administrate and iron out all the details before i commit 100% but from what I have seen I am capable of the job...


Reach out to me either here via PM or email me at [email protected]
We can discuss the needs.
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Old 2024-09-24, 02:56 PM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

I'd do whatever little I can.
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Old 2024-09-24, 07:25 PM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

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I thought, I said I could and would run the site... I guess I need to make it clearer, PM to talk about what all needs to be done to "run" the site, lets discuss the needs to administrate and iron out all the details before i commit 100% but from what I have seen I am capable of the job...


Reach out to me either here via PM or email me at [email protected]
We can discuss the needs.
Edit I hada typo on my email it is [email protected]
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Old 2024-09-25, 03:42 AM
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Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

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Edit I hada typo on my email it is [email protected]

I hope it works out!
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Old 2024-09-25, 05:09 PM
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Hello there, fellow peoples.

I've had some development experience over the years, in various terms, and I had started with supporting PHP/MySQL backend, adding some new functionality to the CMS being used, etc.

I believe there are 2 possible strategies here:
1) To keep the whole project working "as is" is better than to turn it off and to call it a day (such a high level of importance for worldwide community, years of archive data, so on, so fifth -).
2) To upgrade the whole project to modern IT standards is better than keeping it working as it currently is (higher performance rate, more friendly and responsive graphical interface, etc.).

So I think it would be reasonable to walk in a progressive enhancement way here, i.e.:
1) to start with the minimal first option: to export all of the data (files and database dumps) from the current hosting (that, as far as I can see, is not that easy to work with on a regular basis), and to deploy it to some admin-friendly hosting that would be easier to maintain;
2) and then (having good old TTD still working properly on a regular basis), to start its upgrade process, to some modern frontend/backend frameworks, and, of course, the torrent tracker itself (but maintaining the source database data), to be able to switch it to the newer version sometimes, as quickly and seamlessly as possible.

I may take part in such migration process, but for sure I won't be able to run it alone ("With a little help from my friends") . Therefore it would be great to create some group or chat in some messenger (Whatsapp, Viber, Telegram or something) to talk the issue, migration steps, who would like to do what at certain point, to coordinate, to make some periodical Zoom calls. It should be much more real time and effective in comparison with PM or email communication.

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Old 2024-09-25, 11:14 PM
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Question Re: TTD Site Savers Post Here! (small update)

Okay, unemployed me with no programming experience would be interested in being part of an admin team, depending on what that actually is... haha! I do have some time (although I don't always use it wisely haha) but no real experience but totally willing to learn to keep the place afloat if that's what it's gonna take!

I'm imagining some folks need to do day to day checking of new posts, deleting spam, etc. to oversee general behaviours and to police the site a bit, correct? And that's where we're having a problem to find help? Is that what I am hearing?

Like I say, I feel like a team of users could do those sorts of front-end duties, if that's the case. While programming and other code type things can be done by other folks that seem to have been found, right? It's the day to day admin duties that haven't got a replacement. I'm not sure if I can take ALL of that section over, and not even sure if one person should be in charge of site decisions that might affect everyone (more than closing altogether haha) - some things should be decided by a team, a vote, or something, depending on what hypothetical that could eventually be.

So, look - if the place is gonna die with nobody to steer the ship, put my name on a list to do it, but I feel like there should be more than one to do it together to make it keep working. I like the idea of a site upgrade update at some point, while maintaining the existing site until a new version can be achieved. I think if we all hurry up and get it together and put our heads together we can get something going before the final deadline. Let's do it, gang!

But, am I right? It's front end day to day site running stuff, clearing spambots, moderating stuff, that's in need of workers? Not programming the site, but operating the program? It's been asked before here: what is still needed for personnel to admin, and what would they really need to do? I think if that was clearer, it would help. What is an admin's job description, exactly? Can programming / coding not be a part of an admin's job to be successful?
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